What the hell am I missing?

[Silent Bob]

So Ogre sold me the the Northern starter army, and I am using Gear Garage to determine what I need to arm them with when I came across an issue.

At TV 750 PL2, I cant use most of the models. GG says I need 2 core GP squads before I can take other squads, which the starter box is (Fire Support and Strike) Now, I can make the Strike sguad into a GP squad, but then I have nothing to make another.

How the hell is this a starter box, if it cant be used as a starter?

Am I missing something here?

[GrumpyMonkey]

I agree, it really is a shitty deal. That starter box is anything but. A real starter should come with 2 GP squads.

You will need to get 2 GP squads I am sorry to say, but you will also want to look at your different Norther options, my Core is VERY different than Ogre's and we both play Southern.

[paradox]

Yup. My Peace River starter has the exact same issue. It comes with a Strike Squad and Fire Support Squad. I can't make a legal army.

I might get 2 GP squads at some point, but I'm in no rush. You'll just have to deal with fighting my illegal army. If you don't like it, don't blame me, I bought a starter kit direct from the manufacturer in reliance on their statement that it was a perfect way to get into the game. The fact that they are incapable of making a legal starter kit is no fault of my own.

In fact, so far as I can tell, all the cheap starter sets are illegal.
www.dp9.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=248&Itemid=251

Recently, I have seen larger, more expensive starters that look like they can be legal, but you end up spending ~$150 or so and have 20 odd figs.
www.dp9.com/#Peace%20River
(the "summer blitz" task force deals).

I question the ability of the game designers at this point.

[Silent Bob]

I am actually thinking of buying an infantry platoon, making my strike squad my GP squad, and then have some points for my FS squad. That would work..

Are infantry any good in this game?

[GrumpyMonkey]

Infantry can ruin a gears day that's for sure, place them in good cover with rocket launchers

[pickles]

Think about it...from DP9's PoV, it's a perfect Starter Box. You buy it to get in the game and then realize to make a decent, legal army, you need to buy some more boxes and blisters. You already got one foot in the door, you've gone this far, most people aren't going to back out now.

Seriously, I agree, you can't make a legal army with the box, but even if you could, it's going to be a very small army. Most any army you build will include the two squads you do get with the Starter, so it's not like you're buying something you won't utilize.

[ogre44]

Try a higher PL.
This is exactly the same thread I posted on the DP9 forums after GenCon, and I was told that the starter boxes are aimed more at PL 3 and 4 armies and that even though the rulebook indicates that PL2 is "Standard" most games and tourneys are fought at higher PLs

[Silent Bob]

Works in PL4, but not 1-3. Kinda poopy there still.

[eviljim]

I got the core books as a free download and after reading them I'm really geeked about this game! I'm leaning toward Nu Coal because they have the most up to date rules and it seems like a lot of other people play North or South. What would I need besides the new $150 army deal they have going on at the DP9 site?

[GrumpyMonkey]

We normally play PL2, for that you need 2 Cores. Looking at that 150.00 starter you should be good as you can use Recon as once of your Core or your Infantry. That 150.00 set is a much better starter than the official "starter" box.

[tytalan]

TV is set by the game PL is set by the players you can play with a higher or lower PL than the other side that up to you. Side note Guild of Blades now has starters and GP's , Recon boxes in store. more coming soon